Herbert Richmond "Herb" Gilbert - South Sydney Player Report

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Gilbert was a dual international, playing for the Wallabies in 1910 before representing the Australia in the 1911-12 Kangaroo tour of England.

Gilbert was a well established South Sydney rugby union player, who had played for New South Wales and Australia before coming across to rugby league. He made his first grade club and premiership debut for South Sydney in the 1911 Round 1 clash against North Sydney at the Sports Ground.

Gilbert was powerful straight running centre, who knew how to use his weight. While receiving a lot of rough play attention, he would never retailiate. With the change of the international transfer rule, he was enticed over to play for Hull in England. Gilbert left South Sydney midway through the 1912 season for what was a world record transfer fee at the time of £450. In 1914 he became the first overseas player to captain a Challenge Cup team to victory in England for Hull. With the Great War escalating he returning home and South Sydney in 1915.

Gilbert played 3 seasons with South Sydney between 1911 and 1915. He only played 24 first grade club games for South Sydney, which included 23 first grade premiership games for South Sydney and 1 first grade cup game for South Sydney.

In 1911 Gilbert continued his representative career while at South Sydney debuting in the 1911 2nd interstate clash for New South Wales against Queensland at the Showground. He then played his first grade in Australian colour on the 1911-12 Kangaroo tour in the openning tour match against combined Midlands/South England team at Coventry. He played his first international for Australia against Wales at Ebbw Vale, before taking on Great Britian in the 1st Test at Newcastle. He played his final representative game while at South Sydney in the 1912 2nd New South Wales against New Zealand match at the Showground.

Gilbert played his final first grade premiership game for South Sydney in the 1915 Round 12 clash against North Sydney at North Sydney Oval. He then played his final first club and cup game for South Sydney in the 1915 City Cup Round 1 clash against Eastern Suburbs at the Sports Ground.

Gilbert was one of the best pre World War II players to play rugby league. He was named in 1938 as Australia's greatest centre, and in 2008 he was named in the ARL 100 Greatest players of the century. In 2004 he was selected in South Sydney Dream Team and in 2018 was inducted into the NRL Hall of Fame.

Gilbert is one of South Sydney's greatest players.

Player Relatives
Brother-In-Law - Frawley, Dan      (Eastern Suburbs)
Son            - Gilbert, Herb Jnr (St George)
Son            - Gilbert, Jack     (St George)
Son            - Gilbert, Bob      (St George)
Grandson       - Gilbert, Sam      (AFL - St Kilda)
Grandson       - Davidson, Larry   (NBL - Wollongong)

Playing - Height / Weight
      6ft(183cm) / 13st 7lb(86kg)

Representative Qualification
NSW City

Date of Birth
Gulgong - 18th September 1887 (Died - 1972) 

Previous Clubs                             First Grade
                                       M  T   G FG  Pt
South Sydney 2G RU       (1908)
South Sydney RU          (1909-10)
Hull (England)           (1912-15)   114 57   1  - 173 (including 1914 Challenge Cup winning captain)

Previous Rep Honours                   M  T   G FG  Pt
Metropolitan RU          (1910)
New South Wales RU       (1910)
Australia RU             (1910)        3  5   -  -  15

Playing Career at South Sydney (1911-12,15)

South Sydney First Grade Debut
1911 Apr 29 Rd01  SSG  v North Sydney (23y 223d)

First Grade
                           Premiership                         City Cup :                           Tour
         M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts :  M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts :  M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts
1911    10  10   -   4   2      2   20 :                                :  -   -   -   -   -      -    -
1912     7   7   -   2   -      -    6 :  -   -   -   -   -      -    -
1915     6   6   -   -   -      -    - :  1   1   -   -   -      -    -

TOTAL   23  23   -   6   2      2   26 :  1   1   -   -   -      -    - :  -   -   -   -   -      -    -

SS Cup   1   1   -   -   -      -    -
SS FG   24  24   -   6   2      2   26 
Short Form
                   Short-Game Knockout
         M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts
1915     -   -   -   -   -      -    -

TOTAL    -   -   -   -   -      -    -

SS SF    -   -   -   -   -      -    -

Captaincy Record at South Sydney

never

Suspension Record at South Sydney

Year       Grade v        Wk CHARGE
never

Player Awards

Year  Award
1938 - RL News Greatest Australian Team(Centre)
1952 - Rugby League News Immortal
1992 - Rugby League Week Top 100 (#70)
2004 - South Sydney Dream Team
2008 - ARL 100 Greatest Players
2018 - NRL Hall of Fame

Representative Honours at South Sydney

Domestic                                   CvC / Interstate :                       Tourists :                          Other
                              M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts :  M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts :  M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts
New South Wales      1911-12  2   2   -   1   -      -    3 :  2   2   -   1   -      -    3 :
Combined Odd FG      1911                                   :                                :  1   1   -   -   -      -    -
Sydney Metropolis    1912     1   1   -   -   -      -    - :                                :

TOTAL                         6   6   -   2   -      -    6

International                                Internationals :                          Other
                              M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts :  M   S   R   T   G/A   FG  Pts
Australasia          1911-12  4   4   -   -   1      -    2 : 26  26   -  20   1      -   62

TOTAL                        30  30   -  20   2      -   64

ALL REPS                     36  36   -  22   2      -   70

Year Pos  Team                 Versus               Match         T  G/A  FG
1911 Wing New South Wales      v Queensland         2nd Match     -  -     -
1911      New South Wales      v New Zealand        2nd Match                      (Selected but DNP)
1911 Wing Combined Odd FG      v Combined Even FG                 -  -     - 
1911      Australasia          (Kangaroo Tour)       
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Midlands/Sth Engld Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Yorkshire          Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Broughton Rangers  Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Lancashire         Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Wales              Test          -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Widnes             Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v England XIII       Tour Match1   -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Hunslet            Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v English League     Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 5/8  Australasia          v Wigan              Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Wing Australasia          v Swinton            Tour Match    2  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Hull               Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v England            1st Test      -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Oldham             Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Leigh              Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Wakefield Trinity  Tour Match    2  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Cumberland         Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Barrow             Tour Match1   1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Huddersfield       Tour Match    -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v York               Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v England            2nd Test      -  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Wales/West England Tour Match    2  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Rochdale           Tour Match    1  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Halifax            Tour Match    2  -     -
1911 Cntr Australasia          v Warrington         Tour Match    1  1     -
1912 Cntr Australasia          v England            3rd Test      -  1     -
1912 Cntr Australasia          v Leeds              Tour Match    1  -     -
1912 Cntr Australasia          v Hull KR            Tour Match    1  -     -
1912 Cntr Australasia          v Barrow             Tour Match2   1  -     -

1912 Cntr Australasia          v Metropolitan                     -  -     -
1912 Wing New South Wales      v Queensland         1st Match     1  -     -
1912 Cntr Sydney Metropolis    v NSW Country        1st Match     -  -     -
1912 Cntr New South Wales      v New Zealand        1st Match     1  -     -
1912 Cntr New South Wales      v New Zealand        2nd Match     -  -     -

After Leaving South Sydney

Gilbert married Mary Frawley sister of Dan Frawley in February 1916 and was enticed over to play with Eastern Suburbs. The following year he would settle in Bexley and transfer to Western Suburbs before St George entered the competition. He then became the inaugural captain-coach of St George in 1921.

Subsequent Clubs                     First Grade
                                           Premiership :               Cup
                                       M  T   G FG  Pt :   M  T   G FG  Pt
Eastern Suburbs          (1916)       14  6   -  -  18 :   3  -   -  -   -
Western Suburbs          (1917-20)    51 23   -  -  69 :   8  2   -  -   6
St George                (1921)        8  1   -  -   3 :   8  3   -  -   9 (captain-coach)

Subsequent Rep Honours                 M  T   G FG  Pt :   M  T   G FG  Pt
Kangaroos                (1917)        1  -   -  -   -
NSW Seconds              (1919)        1  -   -  -   -
New South Wales          (1919-20)     4  2   -  -   6
Australia                (1919-20)     4  2   -  -   6 :   3  4   -  -  12 (captain in one test)
Sydney City              (1920)        1  -   -  -   -

After completing his playing career he would go on to coach St George between 1922-24. At the end of his working career he would returned to the SCG to finish his working life as one of the dreaded “green coats” guarding the entrance to the player’s dressing rooms from the general public.

First Class Playing Career (1911-21)

                              M   T   G  FG  Pts
Total England               114  57   1   -  173
Total FG Premiership         96  36   2   2   20
Total FG Cup                 20   5   -   -   15
Total FG Club Tour            -   -   -   -    -

Total Internationals          8   2   1   -    8
Total State                   8   4   -   -   12
Total Other Representative   34  24   1   -   74

TOTAL FIRST CLASS           280 128   5   2  302

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